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I don't think a 2 comm solution is going to solve the major issue that more than one pilot is aware of. The edgewise word left unsaid. I tried to say this before but failed so I'll try again. The 2 channel solution will only create another channel in which the more vocal will drown out the lesser vocal. The same non-vital information will be transmitted on the new channel as with the old, "the bastard put a hole in my canopy..." We lack comms discipline regardless of the number of channels. And in the interest of sociability I am as guilty as the rest. (I sometimes wonder if the rest realize this themselves).
  But the balance between having fun and being semi-militaristic must be sought? I didn't sign anything and I'm not getting paid to do this so it must be for fun that I put up with the likes of Sp00k.
 Another side effect of 2 channels may be rearing it's head but I won't be the one to say it.

"TWC into CloD and BoS factions"

That sounds ominous.  Are these "factions" battling for supremacy?  I have seen this happen before, and I came to TWC as a result.  While I have bought pretty much everything BOX has offered, hoping it would improve, so far I have been disappointed.  To my mind, only CloD and DCS offer anything close to real flying, and I've done some real flying.  BOX SUX.

My dear Mr. Spook, i am truly grateful for your expression of welcome, even though I suspect it was given through gritted teeth.  I have truly missed reading your posts while I have been adrift from TWC comms.  May I say I also deeply regret this bifocuration of TWC into CloD and BoS factions.  I can understand it, but I regret it. Still we are where we are.

That also applies to this switch to Discord.  I fear you are too sanguine when considering my ability to master this new bit of kit, my continued attempts just leave me more and more mystified.  Further, the lack of, for want of a better term, "whisper" facilities if I do ever manage to get it to work, saps my enthusiasm to even try more than somewhat.  With no side channels, or whispers, how the heck to I talk with my wingman without blocking the entire channel for the rest of the squadron?  How does my flight lead tell me what he wants his flight to do without also blocking the entire channel?  How the feck do I scream, "Break right, NOW!" to my oppo whilst some fool, whose plane is fifty miles away, is telling a long anecdote about gliding in the Alps forty years ago? How will some, please God, future ground controller system ever work?  How will, if we ever, please God, once again get multiple flights/squadrons fighting over a large area, with different missions, ever effectively communicate?  Maybe chucking everyone into a single channel works in the world of BoS, I don't know.  What I do know, after years of experience, is that it doesn't damn well work in CloD.

I don't think there's any fracture with the factions. Some like COD, some like BOS, to each his/her own, all wear the TWC tag.I think Sp00k told me that TWC was a FPS clan before it was a flight simming sqn. anyway. Haven't been in a sqn. yet that didn't diversify its portfolio.

I have to say VR does give a real world feel to BOS above what you can get with with 2 D. It would be the same with COD as well, but it's comparing apples and onions to compare a 2D experience with a true 1 to 1 3D experience.
I guess what I'm saying is any short coming BOS may have is made up for by VR. I still wait for that rearward Jerk after my plane comes to a stop at the end of a flight. If not for VR I might still be flying COD. But none of these games are sims, really, just a representation of an experience with many  parts left out due to limitations of computers. The missing parts differ from game to game. When they have the ground grew wind up the gyros then we'll be getting somewhere.

I don't think there's any fracture with the factions. Some like COD, some like BOS, to each his/her own, all wear the TWC tag.I think Sp00k told me that TWC was a FPS clan before it was a flight simming sqn. anyway. Haven't been in a sqn. yet that didn't diversify its portfolio.

I have to say VR does give a real world feel to BOS above what you can get with with 2 D. It would be the same with COD as well, but it's comparing apples and onions to compare a 2D experience with a true 1 to 1 3D experience.
I guess what I'm saying is any short coming BOS may have is made up for by VR. I still wait for that rearward Jerk after my plane comes to a stop at the end of a flight. If not for VR I might still be flying COD. But none of these games are sims, really, just a representation of an experience with many  parts left out due to limitations of computers. The missing parts differ from game to game. When they have the ground grew wind up the gyros then we'll be getting somewhere.

Target,

I have flown some real simulators, like what the airlines (A320) and the military (Saudi AWACS KC-135) use.  So, I have something to compare with.  If CloD or DCS had VR and G forces, they would compare favorably with what the airlines train on.  Not as good, certainly, but closer than BOX for instance.

As for the FPS, I would like to see more all-Sqd activities.  I don't like flying around by my self.  Not healthy.

btw Shouldn't that be a forward jerk when the plane stops.  The plane stops, but you go forward in your harness for a second.  In the real sims, the box you are sitting in actually moves backward slightly, so that you go forward which gives you that feeling of stopping. It moves forward, pressing you back in the seat, to give you the sensation of speeding up.

Well that's what I'm saying, none of these games are simulators, just games. I've noticed over the years that the advertisement of these games will proclaim how close the FM's are, then, depending on which voice is the loudest, the FM's change with the first patch. Same series of A/C, but somehow the history of it's FM changed in mid-stride. I would expect if the FM's were as accurate as the advertising had said at the first then all the bellyaching in the world wouldn't have any merit. But it seems someone on the development team is somehow convinced that if the mob says it's wrong then it must be, until the other side begins their diatribe.
 That being an aside, VR adds a dimension that makes all that rather, how do they put it? Meh. Still a game but the game is totally different. And yes you are right, I await that forward jerk when the wheels stop. Must have been my dyslexic nature that threw me a curve on that one. The point remains though, VR causes some sense of motion, not by  physical maneuvering, but by some sensory deception. Closer to the feeling of a true flight simulator than what you can get on a flat screen. The next step would be to add one of those hydraulic cages they show on Youtube. Outside the range of my retirement check.

Piranha was probably the 1st of us to experience it.  Forgetting you are in a sim cockpit and trying to put your elbow on the cockpit sill with the canopy back.  A day or so later, I did the exact same thing completely forgetting there was a world outside of the game and that I wasnt actually in a cockpit. It was amusing the first time and also when I caught myself doing it again.  Likely most pilots have done it at least once.  On another occasion I remember reaching out with my hand to click the switches in the cockpit with my brain telling me that they were actually there, I managed to smash my hand against the edge of the desk in my rush to get to that switch.  I think Tail got caught doing that too.

No the sim may not be perfect but it is great fun.  The VR experience amplifies that ambience we all search for in a sim. One that puts us there.  From the gut churning dive from high with the trees screaming up towards you, to the valley runs with mountains on either side putting you in Papau New Guinea or Burma.  It really doesn’t matter whether it’s BOS or CloD, that’s the experience we are chasing.  It’s flight sim heroin.

That sounds ominous.  Are these "factions" battling for supremacy?  I have seen this happen before, and I came to TWC as a result.

I don't think there's any fracture with the factions. Some like COD, some like BOS, to each his/her own, all wear the TWC tag.

I would like to take this opportunity to address these two issues. Target hit the nail on the head, regardless of what you play we are all still TWC, we adhere to the same standards and enjoy the game as well as each others company. The migration from TS to Discord had a few factors behind it, one of each being money, another of which being the distance between the guys that make this awesome organization being the two primary reasons.
Now that we have merged, you will notice the Discord tab to the side of the forum, once I am back from my business trip you will see on Discord text chat which live feeds forum posts. My goal is to create a seamless integration both forward and back between the website, forums, and Discord. This facilitation of clean communication between members can only help to bring us together, as well as allow recruits to easily be introduced to all members of The Crew. In Discord members primarily communicate with those they play the same game with, on the forums we have more access to those we do not.

As far as I can tell from speaking with many of you, there seems to be no real split other than who flies what. But some fly both. It would seem to be that everyone wants to keep us all together and enjoy all of our company.
I believe the ideas of a 'split' are simply strange rumors. However I am not omniscient, I'm just the IT guy for the forums and website. I wouldn't even consider myself leadership, as I feel that falls to Fatal_Error and Sp00k.

At the end of the day, any problems that an organization has can only be solved by clear communication, compromise and a sense of community. None of which can be attained without and effort on the members.
Personally, my goal is to create an environment (such as a good looking site and forums) in which people can come together, and have some pride in their meeting place. I plan to appoint myself "Propaganda Minister" and start advertising our squadron, creating videos and other such things that showcase who we are and why we are the best to be around. I want to grow The Crew, which has become my surrogate Corps, by adding new, quality members so that we have more people to fly with. (Emphasis on quality, standards will never be dropped, and those who are acid to play with will not make it past the 30 trial and will be dropped, as usual).

I need the help from you guys, that clear communication, to help me achieve this. There is a post HERE in which I ask for your input on the cosmetics of the site, and any user experience/interface things you would like to add.
Fatal_Error has also posted HERE for videos to be posted, and I have also asked on Discord for you to post your videos so that we may create some advertising.

If you gentlemen believe as much as I do in this goal, and would like to help fulfill it, these are the ways you can help out. I would also appreciate the support of those with more influence than I to help me achieve this.

Great idea SNG, that should go a long way to getting all of our membership to check and contribute to the forum also.

Separate yet common channels is the way the different factions will have to work in BOS. 1 fighter leader tunes into WOP channel he acknowledges the leader of the Ground Pounders . Fighter leader covers bombers via knowing there heading and whereabouts as he is listening to all bomber pilots period. He then instructs his fighter pilots as needed to cover the bombers. 

Simple communication in this manner keeps the 2 flights together but separate insuring mutual support. With no ability to do this in BOS we have been given permission to use ATAGs teamspeak for Fighter communication. Since you can be on Teamspeak and Discord at the same time and adjust volumes in each, this is the viable solution to the lack of whisper on discord.

Those wishing to participate in this manner need to be made aware of this and act accordingly.

Nothing changes for the BOS bomber pilots they only have to decide what they are going to do and stick to the plan, believing that they are covered via communication between the leader and the fighter leader Period.

We have discontinued teamspeak for the cost of 130 dollars a year, and atag will give us our own channel to use for BOS.

"Separate yet common channels is the way the different factions will have to work in BOS. 1 fighter leader tunes into WOP channel he acknowledges the leader of the Ground Pounders . Fighter leader covers bombers via knowing there heading and whereabouts as he is listening to all bomber pilots period. He then instructs his fighter pilots as needed to cover the bombers. 

Simple communication in this manner keeps the 2 flights together but separate insuring mutual support. With no ability to do this in BOS we have been given permission to use ATAGs teamspeak for Fighter communication. Since you can be on Teamspeak and Discord at the same time and adjust volumes in each, this is the viable solution to the lack of whisper on discord.

Those wishing to participate in this manner need to be made aware of this and act accordingly.

Nothing changes for the BOS bomber pilots they only have to decide what they are going to do and stick to the plan, believing that they are covered via communication between the leader and the fighter leader Period.

We have discontinued teamspeak for the cost of 130 dollars a year, and atag will give us our own channel to use for BOS."

Fair enough and what is the equivalent plan for CloD?